By the way linking master race to master sword is like me linking master race to masterbate ( intended incorrect spelling ).

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That's (sp), Rollo. Either (sp), or (sic) I think.

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I always thought (sp) was for when you weren't sure and usage of (sic) confuses me, and I'm sure half the people here so I made it blatant for convenience.

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Well; maybe my history isn't so great. But at least I'm thinking and not going ''praise miamoto san, let me kiss your feet my almighty leader of truth and justice in the world''. I really really really appreciate blackzero as a member of this forum and as a person. Theories need good info, obviously. But it seems like Rollos teeny testosterone laden angst leads him to act like a lunatic about anything and everything. And leave a trail of bitter people behind in the process.

Now; I believe the game is saying something. That it's not ''just a fun game''. What it's saying specifically may be beyond me. Which is why I could use some help. BUT; I do believe it's generally about world war 2. And I will ALWAYS believe that ganon represents the jew. Other than that; my ideas are just ideas. The Zoras being Filipino was just something in my mind that I wasn't sure about. But it could be. The zoras ''could'' be Hawaiians, but the Philippine connection makes more sense to me.

All the stuff that I said about the other races was pure guessing. Not the Kokiris; I do believe they are representative of the Ukrainians. But; as for the Gorons; I have absolutely no idea. And I sat there researching for so long my brain was going to explode, and I wasn't up for unraveling the goron mystery. I was looking at wikipedias stuff about Zelda races, and they said the gorons are from the mountains and like sumo wrestling and bathing in hot springs. But I get China and Japan confused sometimes. BUT; I thought the shieka could be japanese becuase wiki calls them ''NINJA like protectors of the princess''. And I as a stupid American always think ninja is japanese and samauri is chinese. But I think they're both chinese. I don't know. Jeez.

Look; I see that there is ''something'' going on with the story, okay! And I want to figure it out. And it's nice to have my research so far in a place where I can get ''POSITIVE'' input (like Blackzeros), and where I can change it appropraitely as I go. So lay off! You don't have to play the super genius hero all the time people! Making me sound like a retard by default makes you a god or something in your own mind. But I did say in my first post that if you wanted to fire back in a negative way about this topic; to take it to the hair color thread; and that it wasn't welcome here. Feel free to fully abuse your rights of freedom of speech, but I don't really feel like being bullied by Rollo on every thread that I make here on zeldagamers. Hey; maybe that's why I chose him in the vendetta thread.......... lol. Hey butters; clyde chooses you. XD

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Sorry for double posting, but I had two seperate thoughts.

Anyhow; I said his rendition of the story would have to be indirect to a degree. But it seems to me that most of you young bucks lack a mind for subtlety. Like if it isn't DUH obvious, then it isn't true. Also; it's a short game. So I don't have to take into consideration every single country that was in WW2. Just what miamoto might find most important to him. Which I as a person that doesn't know him personally; wouldn't know. What DO the Japanese history books say?

Anyhow; I'd like it if, just for fun; the people who didn't agree that the game has ANYTHING to do with WW2, got involved in a ''what if'' fashion. But realistically; not ''well; the hylians could be from mars'', just to be a jerk. Throw away your idea that this thread is somehow blasphemy to the Zeldian religion, or whatever you kids think. And have fun. What if........

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Make no mistake: the Japanese were not protectors of the Germans. They too were following their own interests. If Germany and Japan had defeated the Allies, you can rest assured they would quickly try to tear each other's throats out. If it came to that, I feel Germany would have defeated the Japanese.

What do Japanese books say? I really don't know; but if I was to guess, I would say they felt the Americans were encroaching on their rights and territories. They would also say something to the effect of believing it to be their destiny to establish an empire in the Pacific. However, the U.S. was a threat to that; hence the attack on Pearl Harbor in an attempt to cripple our fleet. What they did not take into account is that the US had many resources, and for every one ship they sank, five would take it's place. The Japanese had a much harder time replacing ships and planes, though; and couldn't keep up with the US war machine. Basically, the US won the Pacific by attrition and two atomic bombs.

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but nazis were supposed to be all aryans who is supposedly link
and if gerudos are jews...
link(nazis) would want to kill all gerudos(jews)!!
i found a flaw in your idea!!! hahaha!
jk, i know it's not supposed to be exactly the same.
you think to much.
be more like me and don't care/think as much about anything but yourself
(and pepsi)

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To be entirely honest, I try as hard as I can to avoid threads you post in because I conflict so much with your personality.

Let me say this in the nicest way possible.

OoT, your theory and others similar are full of far too many holes to be about WW2.

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As much as I do respect and appreciate you trying to apply your knowledge of history, I'm afraid I have to side with Rollo here. You are simply grasping at straws. You are looking for connections and relationships that simply aren't there. Are there similarities between Zelda and WWII? Sure. But that's as deep as the rabbit hole goes. There is no significance to this relationship. There is no hidden meaning. Here is no secret message here. That's not to say there isn't a meaning or allegory to the Zelda series, but it isn't WWII. What you are doing is seeing that there are similarities between two fairly unrelated topics and trying to attack a significance or meaning to it. That is all subtexts are. From the belief that Final Fantasy X is an anti Christian statement to the lesbian subtexts of Xena: Warrior Princess, it is basically people seeing things that could have been interpreted differently; and those persons trying to attach a meaning to it.

Basically, subtexts are like Rorschach (inkblot) tests. You are given something to interpret, and tell others what you see. Sometimes people see butterflies. Sometimes they see dead children. It all depends on who is looking, and what they are looking for. Now I have offered credence to your theory and approached it with the belief that there was some way that it was true or accurate. However, I have not come up with anything conclusive. There are just too many loose ends and unanswered questions.

This is in no way meant to discourage further probing of this phenomena. However, if you are convinced there is an esoteric significance to what these games say, I suggest either exploring more satirical elements rather than historical. Why? because that is what most movie makers, novelists, poets, songwriters, and virtually every other means of creative outlets do. They tell a story within a story. Sometimes, it's to offer their opinions; like George Orwell or Green Day. Other times, its to prove a point or offer a lesson in morality. If there is a subtext to LoZ, it's more likely the latter. Look at Zelda, and see if you can find a moral to the story, or perhaps symbolism of a different historical occurrence. As far as WWII goes, you're missing the mark; there is no significant relationship.

Edit: I thought I'd also add this...

Both Samurai and Ninjas are Japanese in origin.

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