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Old 06-12-2008, 07:16 PM
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Has anybody thought about this.

Has anybody thought about this. At the end of Ocarina of Time link was send back to being a kid while Zelda stayed in her time line in the future if you believe the split-time line theory. In WW a Link appeared that had no connected to the legendary hero. The legendary hero was just a legend that may have been talked about by Zelda. What if WW time line was in the time line where Zelda was in the future in Ocarina of Time and there was no legendary hero in that time because he was sent back in time. And in WW there was no chance of finding the true legendary hero so the Triforce of courage was passed onto someone with no connected to the legendary hero. What if this Link ended up having a kid or whatever that was also called Link and thought of as the legendary hero but actually had to connection to the legendary hero. And there is a Link in some games that actually has no connection to the original legendary hero but still has the Triforce of courage passed on to him somehow by the WW Link.
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Old 06-13-2008, 01:22 AM
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Has anybody thought about this. At the end of Ocarina of Time link was send back to being a kid while Zelda stayed in her time line in the future if you believe the split-time line theory. In WW a Link appeared that had no connected to the legendary hero. The legendary hero was just a legend that may have been talked about by Zelda. What if WW time line was in the time line where Zelda was in the future in Ocarina of Time and there was no legendary hero in that time because he was sent back in time. And in WW there was no chance of finding the true legendary hero so the Triforce of courage was passed onto someone with no connected to the legendary hero. What if this Link ended up having a kid or whatever that was also called Link and thought of as the legendary hero but actually had to connection to the legendary hero. And there is a Link in some games that actually has no connection to the original legendary hero but still has the Triforce of courage passed on to him somehow by the WW Link.
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Wow...that's kinda deep. I'm thinkin' it may be the spirit of the legendary hero that is what decides where the triforce and what not goes. Cuz...Link in WW had no connection with the hero either, yet was still able to wield the Master sword and possess the triforce of courage. Maybe like Gannon, the spirit moves on from host to host. While there is no physical connection between the Hero of Time and the other Links, the spirit of that hero may just keep reincarnating in other Links. Just throwin' that out there...
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Old 06-13-2008, 07:11 AM
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I don't know for sure anymore, but I didn't think that pirate chick was related in blood to the 'real' Zelda.

But actually, what you're saying here, is that OoT creates two dimensions of the same world, one with the hero after *7 years* and one without the hero after *7 years*?
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:11 AM
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i never got halfway through WW but that sounds correct, and
if link had the triforce when he left, then he took it back to the past with him when zelda sent him back..
but if all goes well in the time that link warned zelda of ganondorf and he never died,
that means that there would have had to of been a link in the future time too.
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I don't know for sure anymore, but I didn't think that pirate chick was related in blood to the 'real' Zelda.

But actually, what you're saying here, is that OoT creates two dimensions of the same world, one with the hero after *7 years* and one without the hero after *7 years*?
If you remember the king said that her mom said to guard it with her life. And if you look on the wall of tetra room there is a picture of her mother that sort of looks like what Zelda would look like if she had gotten older. And that would explain the older Zelda who stayed 7 years in the future while link went back in time and she stayed where she was and Ganon would be in her time sealed away in the dark realm and in WW it talks about him being banished or sent to the dark realm and he eventually broke free and got out. So it would make sense that WW was after OOT in the time Zelda was in when she sent link back in time 7 years. And Zelda could have passed the gossip stone down to tetra. Or Zelda could have passed it down through more than one generation that eventually let to tetra. And if link went back in time 7 years then ganondorf would not have been banished and would not have got to the sacred realm yet. And he may have had to try and stop him again. Which could eventually lead to maybe another Zelda game that takes place after the time link was sent back in time 7 years. And I think that game would be Twilight Princess because you will see a picture of the fisherman in a picture on the wall in Hena's Cabin. And My theory about Link being sent back in time 7 years and having to fight ganon again would make sense because the cut-scene in TP makes you think that ganon was never banished like at the end of Ocarina of Time and the sages had to fight him and eventually sent him through the mirror to the Dark Realm. Also Nintendo says that TP takes place 100 years after OOT.
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Old 06-14-2008, 04:59 AM
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well...

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But actually, what you're saying here, is that OoT creates two dimensions of the same world, one with the hero after *7 years* and one without the hero after *7 years*?
After you defeat Ganon[dorf] Zelda asks you to return the Master Sword to her, saying that she needs it back in order to repay you for what her ignorance drug you into; as Zelda lays the Master Sword to rest, the Door of Time is sealed and thus, "the road between times will be closed..." Zelda also asks you to return the Ocarina, so that she can use her powers as a Sage to return Link to his "original time". In essence, Zelda returns non-hero Link back to the time before he entered Ganon's Castle to defeat him (hence why you can still go and fight Ganondorf, even after beating the game) as if non-hero Link has never defeated Ganon[dorf] at all. So it's obvious that Zelda returned non-hero Link back to his "original time"; this is supported by the simple fact that the Master Sword, the Ocarina, and the Door of Time are still there and may be used at will. So where does this leave the Link that defeated and received honor for winning over Ganon[dorf]? It leaves hero Link where he and Zelda parted in the time after Ganon[dorf] is defeated, with both sealed within the Door of Time.

whew. it's 2:00 am, and most likely there are some problems with this idea, but oh well. :)
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This is the source of every Zelda timeline debate in history. If you want a really good theory, look up a guy named Chrono on the internet. He has some theories that'll blow you away. I'm much too tired to come up with one for myself right now, though.
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Well it is obvious that Wind Waker takes place after Ocarina of Time and TP. Because at the beginning of WW, it talks about the legendary hero who defeated the great evil (Ganon). It then says that the evil arose again, and the people hoped that their hero would come to save them again but he never did come. Also, the game takes place on the seas, with Hyrule Castle only being found later, underwater.
It most timeline theories I have seen, it is believed there have been 5 Links.
1 Link for The Legend of Zelda, and Zelda 2-The Adventure of Link
Another for A Link to the Past,Link's Awakening, and Oracles of Ages/Seasons
Another for Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask
Another for Twilight Princess
Another for Wind Waker, and Phantom Hourglass

I think that as another post mentioned, Link and Zelda (at least Link) are reincarnated. For example, Link 1 would die and his spirit would chose another, which would be Link 2 and it would continue to be carried on throughout the 5 Links we have had thus far. There is no doubt that it is not the same Link in every game.
I saw something at a bottom of a walkthrough that may help that was revealed in TP.
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Well it is obvious that Wind Waker takes place after Ocarina of Time and TP. Because at the beginning of WW, it talks about the legendary hero who defeated the great evil (Ganon). It then says that the evil arose again, and the people hoped that their hero would come to save them again but he never did come. Also, the game takes place on the seas, with Hyrule Castle only being found later, underwater.
It most timeline theories I have seen, it is believed there have been 5 Links.
1 Link for The Legend of Zelda, and Zelda 2-The Adventure of Link
Another for A Link to the Past,Link's Awakening, and Oracles of Ages/Seasons
Another for Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask
Another for Twilight Princess
Another for Wind Waker, and Phantom Hourglass

I think that as another post mentioned, Link and Zelda (at least Link) are reincarnated. For example, Link 1 would die and his spirit would chose another, which would be Link 2 and it would continue to be carried on throughout the 5 Links we have had thus far. There is no doubt that it is not the same Link in every game.
I saw something at a bottom of a walkthrough that may help that was revealed in TP.
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What is is people say? 'All things are relative?'

At any rate, perhaps Link isn't born with the spirit and keeps the spirit to death. Perhaps, the spirit possesses each Link for however long it needs to save the world. Because many believe the skeleton teaching you is actually the Link from another Zelda game (Zelda II, I believe). So he accepted the spirit of the Hero, did his thing, and the spirit moved on until it was needed again, possessing another host, doing it's thing again, and so on. Heck, you could almost make the argument that the spirit resides inside the Master Sword, because it really isn't until you possess the Master Sword that you start becoming the hero. In Ocarina of time, when you have the Kokiri sword, you're just Link. After you get the Master Sword, your the 'Hero of Time'. In MM, (after you put it back), you are no longer the Hero of Time, but just plain Link again. In WW, same thing. You're just Link when you start out. Then you get the Master Sword, and you become something more. After you are done with the sword, you're just Link again. It's been so long since I've played the others, can anyone say the same for them? (I can't remember the details)
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What is is people say? 'All things are relative?'
Heck, you could almost make the argument that the spirit resides inside the Master Sword, because it really isn't until you possess the Master Sword that you start becoming the hero. In Ocarina of time, when you have the Kokiri sword, you're just Link. After you get the Master Sword, your the 'Hero of Time'. In MM, (after you put it back), you are no longer the Hero of Time, but just plain Link again. In WW, same thing. You're just Link when you start out. Then you get the Master Sword, and you become something more. After you are done with the sword, you're just Link again.
You make a good point. The spirit of Link could very well be in the Master Sword. It's makes since. It would also explain why the Links keeping pulling out even though in doing so it frees Ganon.
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