Well, it can work. It's like a long-distance relationship except you didn't start it in person. I don't know if I could get into one though, meeting the person in-person would be kinda weird.
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I saw this discussion some nights ago, and I avoided it because after seeing it was an old discussion I also saw most of it has been said, if not all, so I might no be adding something useful to it to justify my necro.
I'll start by stating that this caught my attention because, yes, I am currently experimenting a long distance relationship.
I'll try to put this readable without having to open the spoilers. So maybe reading this way first and then if you want read a second time taking your time to open them is what I'd like.
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It may be talking through chat.. but its real people feeling real love emotions and closeness with that person on the other end, people arent always someone diff online, most people u can trust, u get to know them really well, to be there for them and to love the person they are.. the same things that a relationship needs in real. The internet isnt a restriction in the relationship or long distance friendship and connection, its a tool, because without it the people never wouldve met in the first place or come into each others lives, it dosent mean what they feel isnt true, or that its not a real relationship.
First of all, I believe love over internet can be real just the way I believe you can make a real friendship, and I believe the first bit because it is what I have experimented through my time being online, I've made very good friends.
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I don't think it's impossible to "fall in love" over the internet. In fact, I think it may be too easy to fall in love this way. Often times, when people communicate over the internet, they can chat with one individual for hours at a time, and it creates an "intimate" setting, if you will.
YES! YES!! YES!!!
Funny enough you need to be there first in order to learn that, people who has never made a strong bond with anyone over the internet, ignore how easy is to feel all right to open. When you are talking face to face with someone you open depending in how the other person is reacting to your words and are constantly catching body language signals. They are no existent. As you keep on treating the person, you learn to "read" through the way they type.
Also, it is possible to experiment "internet crushes". I know there have been people I have admired a lot through some boards, but boards let us open more than usual. I know I don't talk of this stuff open, but here seeing a thread asking about it, and seeing other people open it about it, other people that are less and less strangers to me as I spend time here.
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I'm going into a criminal justice field, and have only been introduced to the world of (...)'imbalanced' individuals. Again, you never really know who you are talking to. (...) I am not trying to say everyone is this way on the internet; but without knowing who you are actually talking to, it is a considerable risk. And also, they could have someone get on the webcam in their place or have prerecorded webcam sessions: never underestimate the criminal element.
Yes, there is a risk when hooking up an online relationship, but don't underestimate that risk is also set in the meatspace. When someone wants to be dishonest with you, they'll do it no matter the medium. Just as you are not going to start dating someone you just met nor telling them your home address, online you also take your precautions.
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First of all, I think you notice fairly quick when someone you're talking to is genuinely interested in you or just wants...something else
Some are pretty obvious yes, but some other can be very patient to build up trust from your side before ever asking you something out of the lines, enough trust so even though it sounds weird, you let it pass without giving it too much thought.
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Plus it's very easy to make sure who you're talking too: ask them to turn on their webcam, and to prevent it from being pre-recorded ask them do wave at you or something (plus I think you'll notice irregularities anyway, like person on cam isn't typing but things are being said to you, or the other way around).
This doesn't really helps to discard that someone else pose there.
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Also, I think the amount of people on the internet who are just looking for a friend far outweigh the people with bad plans.
Of course, you still need to stay sharp and take some basic precautions, I agree, but there's a difference between being cautious and being paranoid.
I agree with the bold the most.
I believe too, that even through having friends through the net is a very charming thing, it is necessary to take your precautions, without falling in a extreme of either thinking all the world is as honest as you are (and thus not being too fast into making a deep bond) nor the extreme of not trusting in any soul that directs a word of you. Internet people come from real world, so we'll find people with good and bad intentions here and there. It is nice to believe that the good people outweigh the rest, but as long as there are people with bad intention we cannot simply let our guard down.
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You know not everything is about sex, imo a good relationship with someone you love is much more important than sex any day.
This one is quoted because I agree with it.
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The only negative is that the person might not be who you think, but that ties into trust and such. And if you don't trust the other person, why go out with 'em?
Exactly, what is the point to be with someone you are not sure is being honest with you?
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Personaly speaking, I would trust someone if I knew them from a general forum first. If someone random just added me on myspace, who nobody else knew, I'd be a bit wary. If it someone on here that was here before me, for example, or had been around a while before getting to know me, I'd be easier about it coz they're more likely to be genuinely normal people.
I am the same way.
Trust is basic. If you are willing to go farther with someone you need to trust in them. One thing I hear often is "how do you know your SO is not cheating on you?". I usually turn it back to them, how can they be so sure their SO are not doing that with them? Many people think that just because is the internet where you contact them, you cannot trust in someone honesty. I can see it seems to be easier, way easier to do it online. Though seriously, if someone wants to play with you they'll do it, being in a face2face relationship doesn't really discard this possibility off. The way you "select" who to start a relationship is way more important that where you start it.
Back to the question how do you know they are not cheating in you? They have all your trust. You believe in their words and you trust them. This is why you can feel tranquil about that.
Other thing I'd like to add, is that trust doesn't magically appear, it is something to be build. As you get to know the other person and their reactions on you, as this person shares with you good and bad moments, showing care, giving you advice, helping you out. The bond between both grows, when this is mutual.
Myself, if I can't see someone as a friend, then there are no chances for me to start a love relationship with them. I think I need to know and trust the person a fair bit before I can consider to start dating someone, being given, i am not dating just because, I like taking it serious.
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Sorry folks, this part is not as important, but I'd like to share it anyway...
I am double posting because of the character limit.
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Issues of trust aside, I think relationships online are fine, but you've got to be careful for your own emotional health. If you fall for someone who lives not too far away, great. If you fall for someone who lives the other side of an ocean, it can really mess you up psychologically. So, you'd have to be careful I guess, and know what you're getting into. Personally I'd try not to go outside the UK (where I live).
Good for you if you are able to set your limits this way. If you make bonds with people you meet online you are always bound to go too deep before you notice, but yes, if you are able to pick up the signals, i guess you are fine. Like Aquari said:
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What you see happenning is you meet people online, friends, buddies... but then love finds you. You dont go searching for it online.
I never thought of the internet as a tool to start a relationship of love with anyone, I was enthusiastic about finding people who shared my like for the OoT game. That is how I joined message boards, I wanted to have people I could talk about the game without feeling awkward.
I made friends, and I made strong bonds. before I realized what was happening, I made a strong bond with someone I consider till today my best friend. I can safely say we both opened a lot to the other and trust in the other a lot, and cared for how the other one was doing a lot. Because of the intimacy bond, you start craving for the other person. I thought this craving was just in my end, and I tried too stop it. Things revolved in a funny way. I had my best friend confessing he had strong feelings for me. I deny my own feelings in order to avoid what I thought back in then was going to chain us to pain. Why? My best friend lives in Australia.
I cut ties with him. Some time after he comes back to my life and I accept it, but I also finally accept my feelings. I keep on considering him my best friend, and we get used to listening to each other voice at microphone and seeing each other in the web camera. Which helps more the intimacy but also marks more how I cannot feel what his face feels like. I can only imagine what would be like hanging out of the same boring walls we always see of each other.
Almost 4 years after I first said no to him. We both know exactly that what we have for each other is not something that just would be gone, it is not a simple infatuation. I am in love with the person inside and outside. Yes I can safely say that.
My SO came to México almost a year ago, I found out we both had been so open through the internet that I had no trouble understanding how my SO was doing/feeling. Of course, I did learn more, but it always felt I was with someone I alreadyknew very well. I am in a relationship because I am serious about making my life by their side.
I only suggest going to a long distance relationship, if you both are willing to wait for the other and fight hard to bring it to a face-to-face relationship.
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The problem with this whole debate is that some of us don't have a choice in the matter. There are so many reasons why falling for someone in real life is better, and reasons why online relationships are good too.(...)So yeah, being with people in real life is probably better, but this whole debate is useless when emotion throws logic out the window.
...because it is so true =3
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The internet is great for relationships. Yes, there is the danger of the person you are interested not being who they say they are, but there are also good things. For one, it allows people to fall in love with each other for who they are, rather than how they look. People who get to know each other face-to-face usually develop a bond which almost always is tied in with appearances. I feel that the internet allows people to develop deeper, stronger bonds. And, after those bonds are developed, it helps keep the relationship strong when they get together IRL.
I met my better half on the internet (deviantART, 2004!), and we developed a very deep bond that went from strangers to best friends to a coupling that has lasted through many hardships. We fell in love before we knew what the other looked like.
You know, most couples divorce. Sad, isn't it? But people with deep-rooted, strong bonds stay together and fight for their relationships. Since the internet helps develop these relationships, I feel that relationships started on the net usually outlast ones started IRL first.
I don't think falling in love over the net is necessarily better than falling in love IRL, but I do feel that the relationships have a better chance at lasting. People who meet IRL today really don't take the time to get to know their better half, and they usually rush into things. Nowadays, people are getting married after 6 mos.- 1 yr! It's no wonder most relationships don't work out.
Remember, being with somebody on the net doesn't mean you'll never be with them IRL. If you have the patience to wait for each other, then that's already a good sign of a lasting relationship. If you don't have the patience to wait, then you probably wouldn't have the patience for a relationship period.
People who meet IRL today really don't take the time to get to know their better half, and they usually rush into things. Nowadays, people are getting married after 6 mos.- 1 yr! It's no wonder most relationships don't work out.
I know this is going a bit off topic,so sorry about that but I'm happy to report my Mom and Step-dad Rob,had married only after 1 month and have been together for almost 4 years now,He is so awesome!
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I think the problem is that people stop putting effort into their relationship or that they didn't put any effort into it at all. It's not ok to only put effort into the kids (if any), either. That's not going to save your relationship with your other half.
Yes I went off on a tangent there, that's too bad.
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don't know waht a tangent is...
so you'r saying parents should focus more on their love life more than their childs life.
if so:
that would emotionally scar the child
if not:
then you mean parents should balance their childs life and love life?