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Old 11-03-2007, 02:30 AM
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Abortion: Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

What do you guys think about abortion? Are you Pro-Life? Or are you Pro-Choice?

I choose to be Pro-life. No matter what the reason. Everyone has a right to live. It's just disgusting what society's standards are today. So if the baby is still inside the mother, then he/she is not considered a person? That's horrible!
And the laws here in Canada are so bad, you can get a baby aborted, even when you're about to deliver the baby! It's insane!

Anyways, what's your thoughts on this guys?
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I am strictly pro-life.
Abortion is disgusting, wrong, and it is murder. If you don't want your child, put the child up for adoption, there are lots of loving parents out there ready to adopt and be wonderful parents if you'll just give them a chance.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:17 AM
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I agree with Rollo, you can't say there is no situation in which an abortion is a viable option. What if the unborn child is malformed or incorrectly developed (and I'm not talking on an aesthetic level here, I'm talking about situations in which the child, if delivered, would die within moments)? Granted, abortions aren't the happiest of experiences, but the emotional loss of a stillborn child or a child which dies moments after birth can affect a mother worse than most any other experience in life.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:22 AM
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Definetly pro-life, think about it, anybody could cure cancer or aids someday, maybe its the child your aborting. then you just ruined more than you think. and theres TONS of people out there who cant have children and would love to have children. hell, just today some people from my church had a celebration after adopting this little girl. they were the happiest people alive, just because they had a child of their own.

And not all children that are aborted are born into a crappy home, not all of them are born to underage girls, sure most are. but some arent, and if they are, does that mean they dont have the right to live? just because they were some accident and werent planned means that we can just kill them off because we dont have the time/money/patience/etc. for them. totally pro-life.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:11 AM
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I see you're point there rollo. But That doesn't narrow it down just to babies being aborted. It can happen to anyone, in any case. Anyones father can be a rapist, anyones mother can be a drug addict, but what good does it do to kill the baby? You can't underestimate the power of one person. Are you saying that it's ok that people commit suicide just because they have a bad life? I'm pretty sure you would at least try to tell that person to give life a second chance, or to help make them rethink their decision. If someone has terminal illness, or they have cancer or something. Would you tell them to just die? Get it over with? Would someone murdering a person with cancer not considered murder because he would have died anyways?When a baby is aborted, it's taking away their chance to live. They don't even have a choice.

Now here's a list of reasons to abort:
-It was a mistake
-I don't want kids
-It's not a boy/girl
-It doesn't deserve to live
-It will ruin my life
-I'm not ready for a baby

Now are any of these reasons really worth having an abortion? Because all these reasons have nothing to do with the baby turning out normal or not, Yet you can still get it aborted.
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#1 Reason to have an abortion:
I would never love this child because of the resentment of the circumstances that I conceived it under, and an unloved child will grow to be unhealthy, miserable, angry, and spread that anger to other people, through abuse, violence, etc.
#2 reason
This child would constantly be a reminder of my rape, I could not raise this child to be a healthy adult because I could never love it

Adoption is not the be all end all. I'm rather upset at the current state of adoption agencies, occasionally letting parents get their kids back when they don't deserve them.

Worse, if a child is not adopted IMMEDIATELY as a baby, their chances of adoption drop considerably. The older they get, the less adequate the care, the less stable the home as they move from one foster home to the next.

All mothers suffer terribly after an abortion, and few would use it frivolously. I really think it's better to trust the individual to make that kind of decision than the government.

However, I don't believe in providing abortions to underage girls without the consent of their parent. That's just messed up. Those girls were not mature enough to get pregnant in the first place and if they weren't mature enough for that then they certainly arent mature enough to consider the long term consequences of having had an abortion.

It's more fair to say that I'm somewhere in the middle.
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I really think abortion should be used in nearly only risky situations. For example, have any of you ever hear the stoy of the pregnant woman who was dying and would die as soon as her child was born or she could choose to have an abortion and live? Then abortion would probably be alright in that sort of situation
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BentSea and Rollo made some great points, but I am all for pro-live. It's cruel to kill innocent babies, even if they are caused by a rape, They are just as human as any of us, and if they had the choice, I'm sure they would want to have a chance in this world. If the woman was raped and doesn't want to have the child to remind her of what had happened, she should have been more careful in the first place or if there was no way to get out of it, she should just put the baby up for adoption or something similar. I agree with digirob in all of his points.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:55 PM
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I know it's off-topic, but I'd like to put forth an observation. With the exception of BentSea, all the members that posted on this thread who were from US/Canada have gone pro-life; indeed, all pro-life supporters on this thread have been from US/Canada. In contrast, Rollo and myself have both supported the pro-choice side of things. I'd like to put it forward that this shows the influence of religion in societies. In the US (and I assume Canada, don't take offense if Canada is completely different) Christianity is a big thing in general. In Australia, however, only around 15% of citizens are full-time Christians (going to church every Sunday and whatnot) and the practice of regular church-goers is often perceived as backward and novel to your average Australian. This doesn't take into account multiculturalism, of course, which would also contribute to Australia's distance from hardcore Bible-bashing.
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I'm pro-life for most situations but there are some that just are tough where I think a choice should be givin...

Like when the mom's life at risk, who would you choose to let live? Someone you love, care about and know for many years or someone that you don't know who is unborn? Of course the choice is up to the mom but, it is a harsh situation.
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